30 Oct 2025

A long-expected update

Submitted by Kimon

It's been a while since this website was last updated! Between the lack of a new publication by KSR (but not, as we will see, a disappearance from public life) and this webmaster's real life, time passed. We start with a big announcement, followed by our customary list of interviews and odds and ends.


The Kim Stanley Robinson archive goes to The Huntington!

Big news! The Huntington, a cultural and educational institution based in San Marino, California, has acquired the personal library and papers of Kim Stanley Robinson. It will join there the archive of such illustruous authors such as Octavia E. Butler, Hilary Mantel and Thomas Pynchon. The collection consists in "50 linear feet of papers, photographs, and manuscripts as well as thousands of digital files". What this includes:

  • Draft manuscripts, typescripts, and digital files for nearly all of Robinson’s novels, with extensive revisions that reveal his writing process and evolving ideas.
  • Research materials and notes on subjects ranging from Martian geology and Antarctic glaciology to climate science and economics, which informed his fiction.
  • Correspondence with scientists, policy experts, and fellow authors, offering insight into his collaborations and his role in climate policy discussions.
  • Personal notebooks and journals documenting Robinson’s creative process, daily life, and reflections on environmental and political issues.
  • Thousands of digital photographs related to his travels and backpacking expeditions as well as ephemera related to his public appearances.
  • Annotated editions of works by authors who influenced him, including Henry David Thoreau, Virginia Woolf, and Ursula K. Le Guin. 

This gives a precious insight into KSR's creative process, both for his fiction and what impact it has on the real world, and is a historical and cultural heritage of great importance. Indeed, the Huntington aims to make the collection available to researchers by 2027.

“It’s a deep pleasure to have my archive go to The Huntington,” said Robinson. “I remember visiting from Orange County when I was in school; as a lifelong library lover, I was amazed there could be such a big and beautiful one. Since then, I’ve known The Huntington as the home of the Octavia E. Butler papers, and I’m proud to have mine join hers there. Science fiction is the genre best suited to expressing Southern California—as our work will show. I’m also honored to have my papers join the library that holds those of other authors I admire, such as Hilary Mantel and Thomas Pynchon.” 

Here is the Huntington's official announcement. Already, the samples released with the announcement are extremely alluring: KSR's copy of The Dispossessed dedicated to him; a handwritten chapter outline for Ministry on what looks like a whiteboard (you can see that photo with this article); a handwritten draft of Green Mars; plus handwritten notebooks with plenty of stuff, lists, letters, photos, maps...

What does that mean for KSR? For one, it does not mean he wil stop writing. Although The Ministry for the Future was his last long novel for Orbit in 2020, he is currently working on a non-fiction book on Antarctica in the same vein as his 2022 High Sierra book. And there's more, as he expands to writing more than longform novels.

 


 

Interviews and live events

Listed chronologically:

16/Dec/24 interview for Nature:

What do you tell young people who worry about climate change?

I often talk to undergraduates about climate dread. They are the people of the future, because they’ll be here in 2075. Thinking about all the things that have to be accomplished by 2050 to avoid crossing tipping points into unavoidable catastrophe — of course you have climate dread.

The rise of eco-anxiety: scientists wake up to the mental-health toll of climate change

So I try to tell them that it means that your life has a project, you have existential meaning. You are not caught in the nihilism of meaninglessness that was capitalist realism. In the 1980s, you saw bumper stickers on US cars that said ‘he who dies with the most toys wins’. It was sarcasm, but it also pointed to a lack of meaning. Why live, what is it all about? Well, now we have that answered.

I also tell them: whatever you’re interested in, whatever your personal interests are, that can become climate work. Arts, public policy, psychology, the sciences, engineering, the humanities, they can all become part of climate work. Just find your angle. But, at the same time, acknowledge that we’re in an emergency, that something has to be done.

 

01/Jan/2025 interview with Akshat Rathi for Bloomberg Green's Zero: The Climate Race podcast. The podcast reposted it as one of its highlights of 2025. Also on YouTube:

 

17/Jan/2025 interview for Lin Weaver's Talking Point show at Davis Community Television, on The High Sierra (also on YouTube).

19/Jan/2025 interview for Richard Louis Miller's Mind Body Health & Politics program (also on YouTube).

22/Jan/2025 interview for the Danish podcast Langsomme samtaler ("slow conversations"); the conversation itself is in the original English (also on Pocket Casts).

23/Jan/2025 interview for ANWH's Frigate podcast (also on Pocket Casts).

28/Jan/2025 interview for the How My View Grew podcast (also on Pocket Casts).

29/Jan interview for the always-interesting Graham Culbertson's Everyday Anarchism podcast about Green Earth (also on Pocket Casts, Spotify, YouTube).

02/Feb/2025 discussion for a Mars trilogy book club organized by John Walter Knych (on YouTube).

13/Feb/2025 interview together with essayist Manjula Martin for Fossil Free California (on YouTube).

17/Feb/2025 second interview for Sam Matey's Weekly Anthropocene newsletter. This one is great, thanks to all the additional material! Some selected quotes:

One of the things about your column is this internationalist thing, the attention to what’s happening elsewhere. You and Mongabay do this, and it’s what we need to hear in America. We really need to know that the world is so complex that good things are happening everywhere, particularly on the biosphere front.

Full employment matters. A targeted 5% unemployment rate was established to instill fear in the heart of the poor, who will then take any job [...] more value of human beings, more ability to become themselves by having a certain amount of social security and probably a meaningful job rather than bullshit jobs. Better than that would be everybody thinking of their job as being meaningful in the larger human project of coming to terms with the biosphere, and that's another kind of utopian goal that needs to be put on the table time after time. It's not just a matter of making sure that you've got rent and water and food. It's a matter of having meaning. That doesn't get discussed enough.

Now, a group has come together. It's a combination of glaciologists and technologists from Silicon Valley, also financial people, and then also a group of internet and computer experts who are interested in doing things to help the world, which started a kind of a Saturday morning Zoom pandemic club amongst friends. They've all coalesced into a non-profit, a 501c3 now, called Ice Preservation. [...] Could we slow down those big ice streams to the point where West Antarctica was stabilized?

What I worry about is what has been usefully called hopium. You provide hope by showing us real things in the real world that are going on right now that, if they succeed, we will get out of this century without a mass extinction event. Now, we need hope and these things are real. I'm not saying what you and I are doing is wrong, as a kind of utopian political project of saying pessimism is wrong, cynicism is wrong. despair is wrong. What's right is fighting and pointing out how many other people are fighting for good things.

One thing I've been encouraging myself with is that even the president of the United States is limited in their power in the world civilization, and this is a century-long effort. You can't dismiss the loss of four years, but it won't even be a lost four years. The United States has never been, except under Biden, a climate leader. The rest of the world has done the things. The economics comes out of China. The EU is the political organization that cares the most. India is under immense pressure to get this right. Same with Brazil.

 

18/Feb/2025 interview for the Party Girls podcast (on Spotify, Pocket Casts). They also have extra content if you contribute to their Patreon -- here's a preview of that.

19/Feb/2025 live panel for the Praxis Peace Institute (recording on YouTube).

6/Mar/2025 seminar at the UCLA Institute of the Environment and Sustainability (recording on YouTube): "Optimism, Optopia, and Climate Change Stories", where he tried to motivate the younger generation for action.

+ some reporting on the event by Legal Planet and IoES itself:

You could quantify it and say that the damage done in the last 6 weeks to the National Institutes of Health means that all of us, on average, are going to have a shorter lifetime. You could then quantify that. There are 8 billion people on the planet. What if they’ve all lost a month? That’s 8 billion months that have been lost to death. So yes, people are going to die from the stupidities of the Trump administration’s attack on the federal government, I mean immediately from disease and from famine in the rest of the world.

What has to be responded to by all of us is ‘You cannot kill the future.’ Think about what they’re up to. There’s genocide, there’s ecocide, there’s futurecide. To kill the future means you see a trend in history that seems inevitable and going in a direction you don’t like because your privileges will be lost.

 

12/Mar/2025 panel with artist Ala Ebtekar, who is working on an upcoming edition of Asimov's Nightfall for Arion Press, which produces limited-edition fully hand-made books (on YouTube).

19/Mar/2025 talk together with public policy expert Stephen Heintz for the Long Now Foundation (Spotify, YouTube): "A Logic for the Future".

Even as we confront the new and returning challenges of this geopolitical moment, we also face a certain meta-challenge: the outdated assumptions, decades or even centuries old, informing our systems of international relations. The status quo — national sovereignty, neo-liberal economics, and zero-sum thinking above all — cannot be maintained in the face of shifting planetary conditions. What that status quo threatens to backslide into — imperialism, great power competition, and unfettered slaughter — is even less pleasant to countenance. Without a cohesive, intellectually rigorous effort to create new assumptions underpinning international relations, planetary thriving is itself at risk.

Three core shifts inform Heintz and Robinson’s thinking, cutting across ecological, political, and economic lines. First, they emphasize the need to recenter the value of all life, rather than the narrow-minded anthropocentrism of so much conventional moral accounting. Next, they propose a shift from national sovereignty to more collaborative modes of governance, taking the nation-state not as an essential unit of international relations but just one model among many on the planetary stage. Finally, they call on all of us to develop regenerative economic systems that can turn the tide on the regime of extractive economics that has become the dominant form of social exchange under contemporary capitalism.

 

21/Apr/2025 interview by painter David Brody for Painters on Paintings on the Chauvet caves and Shaman. Some selected quotes:

I had already begun work on my novel before the Werner Herzog movie “Cave of Forgotten Dreams” came out. I saw the movie twice in theaters, in 3-D, then bought a DVD of it so I could watch it frame by frame at home. It’s a very good movie, especially in the way Herzog trusts the cave and its paintings to be the items of interest, so that he pans back and forth across them repeatedly. His usual array of eccentric commentators don’t really impede the success of the film. Along with a great number of books on the Paleolithic and shamanism, that movie was one of my chief aids when writing my book.

[On the more organized packs of northerners taking slaves vs the small cooperative bands of southerners being hungry] Yes, I was speculating about these ideas, some of which I had read in the literature, and some of which were my own, including the notion that the domestication of wolves into dogs might have inspired a somewhat similar origin for humans enslaving other humans.  Also, that when a surplus of food was created, in effect by refrigeration, this would begin the process of property, hierarchy, and patriarchy, shifting things from a more scarcity-based and thus egalitarian Paleolithic band society, to bigger Neolithic and agricultural town societies, where the split into classes began.

I did want to show that although gender roles were pretty defined then, and there were some separations in people’s social life and roles by way of gender (as in first people societies still living today), men and women were equal in social power.

I do think The Mind in the Cave, and the whole case for shamanic psychedelics that was made by Jean Clottes and David Lewes-Williams, with psychedelics of different kinds being one of the identifying features of shamanism worldwide—is pretty convincing, even though it must remain speculative, given the thousands of years separating us from the cave painters.

The Third Wind was particularly important. This narrator of the novel is some kind of spirit being.  Early on I realized that the narrator of this novel needed to be not me but rather some entity from that time, explaining aspects of that time to its listener—who was listening, because the story was told, not written.

Also, I agree: the audiobook version by Graeme Malcolm is superb. That meant a lot to me.

 

24/Apr/2025 interview for the Public Books/Novel Dialogue podcast together with literary critic Elizabeth Carolyn Miller (also on YouTube, Spotify, Pocket Casts) + transcript in pdf format + of note, Miller, a professor at UC Davis, had KSR visit her English course in the past.

25/Apr/2025 interview for the International Peace Institute (on YouTube), on the side of a roundtable discussion on "The Declaration on Future Generations: Moving from Vision to Reality"

03/Jun/2025 interview for the Mongabay podcast + a preview on YouTube

10/Jun/2025 interview for the 2025 Public AI seminar (YouTube, AI-generated summary (!) on Google Docs)

29/Jul/2025 interview together with Oxford's Anette Mikes for Intesa Sanpaolo's Global Conversations with Global Leaders podcast (Spotify, YouTube, Pocket Casts).

26/Sep & 03/Oct/2025 interview with Tranen's Toke Lykkeberg for e-flux magazine, in two parts: "To Capture the Present Moment, You Either Write Historical Fiction or Science Fiction", Part 1, Part 2. A couple of quotes:

Instead of being a simple descriptor of our reality, the Great Acceleration is a complete mess. Some things are accelerating, others are already decelerating and falling apart. And this mess is what we call history. It can’t be named simply. That is also the point of your extemporary art, instead of contemporary art: an art outside of time.

Ministry takes on a rather grim topic. It could be a CoP report, it could be an IPCC report. These documents are thousands of pages long and they’re depressing. And yet I wanted to make a novel that was only five hundred pages long—a little long, but not very long compared to some of my other novels. And I wanted it to be fun, because reading a novel is for pleasure. So it’s Aristotle, it’s Brecht. Education can be fun and entertainment can be educational. It’s not either/or. The best art does them both. One of the ways I could think to make the novel entertaining was this play of genres, or play of forms. When you start a chapter in The Ministry for the Future, you do not know what form you are reading.

 

03/Oct/2025 interview for the New Indian Express: "Mars can't save you".

The idea of colonising Mars – the Muskian vision of a “multi-planetary species” – is, in Robinson’s words, “bad science fiction”. He explains: “We can’t breathe the air. We can’t touch the soil. The surface is laced with perchlorates – salts deadly to humans. You’d have to live underground, in radiation-shielded bunkers. Like a Motel 6 in a prison.”

“The Mars books were about building a better society on another planet,” he said. “But Ministry is about doing that here, now, under pressure, in crisis.” Even in Blue Mars, the message was never “let’s escape Earth”: it was the opposite. The Martians return to a ravaged Earth and say: “Mars can’t save you. We’re a mirror. If we can build a just society here, so can you.”

 

15/Oct/2025 interview for Natascha McElhone and Omid Ashtari's Where Shall We Meet podcast (also on YouTube, Pocket Casts).

22/Oct/2025 interview for the Financial Times' Tech Tonic podcast; transcript available (also on Pocket Casts): "Mission to Mars — Bad science fiction".

If you had a city on Mars and then something happened that killed every human on Earth, that community on Mars is doomed. Doomed to a slow death. They need Earth. They need everything that Earth provides. They would be an outpost only, utterly dependent.

 


 

More KSR news

On the occasion of the centenary of the publication of F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby, the Fitzgerald Society organized a reading of the whole work by prominent people, among them KSR together with Maxine Hong for a chapter (on YouTube) -- the whole thing is on their website!

As mentioned above, KSR is an advisor of the Ice Preservation organization.

KSR wrote the foreword to The New Possible: Visions of Our World Beyond Crisis, a 2021 collection of essays on a changing world, edited by Philip Clayton, Kelli M. Archie, Jonah Sachs, and Evan Steiner. Available from their website.

KSR contributed to the collection No More Fairy Tales: Stories to Save our Planet, edited by D. A. Baden and Steve Willis. KSR's stories, "The Carboni", "Drambers" and "Project Slowdown", are (presumably) excerpts from Ministry. Available from Habitat Press.

KSR is the judge to a short fiction contest by The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: "Write Before Midnight" -- winners to be announced in January 2026.

KSR appeared in a British documenary series on the history of science fiction, specifically exploring MinistryWonderland: Science Fiction in the Atomic Age. Available from Sky Arts.

For a survey on California literature organized by Alta, KSR recommends: "Cecelia Holland, who lives in Humboldt County, is one of our greatest living novelists".

Speaking of California literature, an essay on KSR's The Gold Coast was part of the 2025 collection California Rewritten: A Journey Through the Golden State’s New Literature by John Freeman, who has been running Alta's California Book Club.

 


 

Everything else

Some more reviews of Ministry:

 

Various articles mention Ministry for the Future or KSR in one way or another, and I'm sure this is just a partial list:

 

Ministry for the Future is recommended in various reading lists:

 

Well, that's all for now -- but there's so much catching up to do that a second update will follow shortly!

20 Nov 2024

It's been a long time since the last update. Another year, another peak in greenhouse gas emissions, a "Götterdämmerung Syndrome" year before things get better, in Ministry for the Future parlance.

The Götterdämmerung Syndrome, as with most violent pathologies, is more often seen in men than women. It is often interpreted as an example of narcissistic rage. Those who feel it are usually privileged and entitled, and they become extremely angry when their privileges and sense of entitlement are being taken away. If then their choice gets reduced to admitting they are in error or destroying the world, a reduction they often feel to be the case, the obvious choice for them is to destroy the world; for they cannot admit they have ever erred.

 

We open by an obituary: recently, famous Marxist literary critic and KSR's PhD supervisor and long-time friend Fredric Jameson passed away (Locus Mag). He was in the acknowledgments of many of Stan's books.


 

Back in June, Kim Stanley Robinson was invited to the University of Oxford at the Hertford College for the official launch of the "Oxford Ministry for the Future" (OMF), which hopes to amplify voices for a sustainable political economy of the future.

Here's more background on the thinking that lead to this by Anette Mikes and Steve New: 'Our Ministry for the Future – Reshaping capitalism to help solve the climate crisis" -- a part of their academic article "How to create an optopia? - Kim Stanley Robinson's "Ministry for the future" and the politics of hope".

The inaugural event itself, titled "Inventing a Sustainable Political Economy for the Climate Crisis", featured Kate Raworth (author of Doughnut Economics) and KSR alongside some very, very interesting panellists: environmental historian Venus Bivar, climate litigation expert Ben Franta, corporate sustainability expert Mette Morsing Smith, author Laline Paull and environmental geographer Jamie Lorimer. Here it is below (YouTube):

 

Ministry directly engages with the functioning of international institutions, and this has gotten KSR invited in many venues. In September, he participated in the United Nations' Summit of the Future 2024 at UN HQ, New York City, an event where both world leaders and plenty of representatives of civil society participated. On the UN side, the event resulted in the Pact for the Future declaration.

As usual in such things, there were plenty of side events alongside the main political part of the event, during the Summit's Action Days: KSR participated in the one called "From Idea to Action and Impact: mobilizing the outcomes of the Summit of the Future", convened by the UNESCO-MOST BRIDGES Coalition:

This event will foreground proposals from the Wales Protocol for Future Generations, highlighting initiatives in community, national and international contexts demonstrating how the ambitions of the Declaration on Future Generations can be achieved.

Where there was an inter-generational discussion between KSR and Leonie Hoffmann, master’s candidate from HEC Paris. A recording of the event is on the UN's website.

See also side-event details at ASU; Summit UN News teaser; KSR interview in the UN's podcast The Lid Is On.

 

Some more interviews:

 

Ministry won the Best Foreign Novel award at the 2024 Grand Prix de l’Imaginaire, honoring the best SF/F work published in France in 2023 (Locus Mag).

 

Ministry keeps popping up in many articles here and there. For instance:

 

Some reviews of Ministry:

 

Plus, some academic articles entirely focused on Ministry:

  • Monticelli and Frantzen, 2024. Capitalist realism is dead. Long live utopian realism! A sociological exegesis of Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. The Sociological Review. https://doi.org/10.1177/00380261241261452
  • Beke and Kiss, 2023. Planetary consciousness, biospherical governance, climatic rightfulness: interpretation and contextualization of Kim Stanley Robinson's novel The Ministry of the Future. Metszetek. https://doi.org/10.18392/metsz/2023/1/2 (Hungarian)

 

As usual by now, here are some articles that are related to Ministry and make reference to it (some paywalled):

 

Some more "odds and ends":

 

That's all for now -- stay tuned for more updates soon, with more maintenance work on the website in particular.

(Photo: Max Brückner's depiction of Götterdämmerung, the twilight of the gods, for Richard Wagner's opera)

21 Apr 2024

Musing about optopias

Submitted by Kimon

First of all, some sad news. Terry Bisson, fellow Bay Area science fiction author and friend of KSR, passed away recently. Coincidentally, KSR had recently chimed in about Bisson in a New Yorker profile. He also wrote an appreciation for Bisson in February's issue of Locus.


 

The High Sierra

We first start with things around the non-fiction The High Sierra: A Love Story, because we don't talk enough about it!

KSR was interviewed about it by the US Times Post: Sci-fi novelist Kim Stanley Robinson talks ‘The High Sierra’

There are many places on this planet that are incredibly beautiful and adorable. You don’t have to burn a lot of carbon to have a good time. The basics of Paleolithic contentment remain the same within us and are readily available. The technological sublime is indeed sublime, but like a drug rush – it’s expensive and can be tiring. The ordinary pleasures are better all around. Walking is one of those pleasures – we evolved to walk better! And hiking in the mountains is fun, but so is hiking in the city or pretty much anywhere else.

He spoke to The Tahoe WeeklyA science fiction writer’s love affair with the High Sierra 

He discussed at the UC Davis Tahoe Environmental Research Center (YouTube video)

He spoke to the Pacific Zen Institute's podcast on The High SierraThe Zen Luminaries

The High Sierra also won some awards! Here they are, with short online KSR interventions:

Some book excerpts are available:

On John Muir, along with various other KSR quotes on John Muir:

The flooding of Hetch Hetchy was a knife thrust into the heart of the wilderness movement. [...] But the war is never over. And as I looked down on the scene that misty evening, I saw the water drain away. It will happen someday. There is no rush about this, and given the emergency century we are entering, it isn’t even close to the highest priority. But put it this way: if civilization gets itself in a balance with the planet, a day will come when we will drain that misbegotten death lake and let the valley go back to the way it was. It will be one of the greatest experiments in landscape restoration ever conducted.

A 1988 poem by KSR is included in the book: Night Poem:

Writing by starlight
Can’t see the words
Fill a page
Nothing there

Waterfall distant sound
Tree against stars Milky Way
Juniper Jupiter white rock
Wind dying my heart
At peace a Friday night

Big Dipper sits on the mountain
Friends lie in their tents
I sit against rock
Star bowl spinning overhead
Feel the movement
And soar away

Who knows how many stars there are
All those dim ones filling the black
Until it seems no black is there
And then you see the Milky Way

The sky should be pure white with stars
That’s black dust up there
Blocking the view
Carbon and hydrogen
All of us flung together

In just this way
A blank white page
I write and then
A blank white page
Story of my life!

Some recommendations for The High Sierra at The Atlantic, Visit California, and University of California.


 

The interviews

Now, on to the usual long list of interviews with Kim Stanley Robinson which are mostly about The Ministry for the Future -- catching up with several that I missed the last time, too, approximately chronologically:

KSR was interviewed for the inaugural issue of Solarpunk Magazine!

Interview at The Great Simplification podcast: Climate, Fiction, and The Future

Interview at the Rising Tide podcast: KSR's Science and Fiction

(Print) interview by Liz Jensen at Writers Rebel (of Extinction Rebellion): Q&A with KSR

We now need public action (government) to be driving all private actions that are relevant to the crucial project; what work gets paid for and done, what consumption patterns are allowed, etc.  This is not ‘green fascism’ any more than the Allied response to Nazi aggression was ‘democratic fascism’; it’s more a case of democratically approved coordinated public action in strong support of the public good.  Legal action is needed for that.   But it’s also an “all hands on deck” situation now, so no one solution will suffice.   We need action across all fronts of society. 

(Video) interview with Grist's Looking Forward, following their book club on Ministry for the Future: "At least zombies aren’t eating my face" (video on Vimeo)

At a certain point, dystopia has run its course of what it can do usefully. So then you need the positive stories. I’ve been writing utopias since about 1987, so that’s adding up to a lot of years of just trying to do the positive because I think we need it more. And it’s harder, technically — it’s less dramatic. But it’s interesting because you get new stories that haven’t been told before.

KSR appearance at the 2023 Learning Planet Festival (YouTube video replay) 

Interview by Madrid's La Casa EncendidaNuevas ecotopías para estos tiempos (YouTube video, dubbed-over in Spanish)

KSR lecture at the University of San Diego's Kroc School Institute for Peace and JusticeKSR Talks Climate Change (YouTube video) (also in the podcast Is The World On Fire?)

UC Davis Environmental Humanities"Ministries for Future" - Donna Haraway and Kim Stanley Robinson (video) (+ Davis Vanguard article on the event)

New Hope Network has some highlights from KSR's appearance at the 2023 Natural Products Expo West for Climate Day: Science fiction offers roadmap for our planet's future

BC Heights has some highlights from KSR's appearance at the Boston College Lowell Humanities SeriesRobinson Outlines Ways To Fight the Runaway Greenhouse Effect

KSR talked again at the Bioneers conference and gives an update: What I’ve Learned since The Ministry for the Future Came Out in 2020 (YouTube video)

KSR was at two events hosted by the College of the Atlantic in Bar Harbor, Maine, here are the recordings on YouTube: Coffee & Conversation: Sci-fi and Our Climate Reality and Summer Institute: Space: Our Last Great Commons

KSR was interviewed by Bloomberg along with a TV writer and a podcaster on: How to Write a Climate Thriller Fit for Page or Screen

“Dystopia is too easy,” Robinson says. “It's even a kind of comfort food, where we imagine situations worse than ours, and then rest comfortably that we're not that bad.”

To avoid writing futures so optimistic they beggar belief, Robinson borrows a concept from the sci-fi author Joanna Russ: the “optopia.”

“It's not the utopia — the no place, the perfect place,” Robinson says. “It's the optimum that we can do given the situation that we're handed. If we dodge a climate catastrophe and a mass extinction event in this century, that's a utopian story.”

KSR was interviewed by the Centre for Science Futures' new podcast series in partnership with Nature: "Science as a political and ethical project" (see also Nature for a shorter version, with transcript).

While in the Netherlands, KSR spoke at the John Adams Institute: Kim Stanley Robinson and the Fight for Planet Earth (YouTube video), along with environmental scientist Heleen de Coninck and author Lisa Doeland.

KSR appeared on a short video by PBS Terra on Geoengineering

Hot Globe interviewed KSR: The Future of the Future (partly paywalled)

It isn’t going to be machinery that solves our problems. But on the other hand, it is going to be technology because language is a technology. Justice is a technology, law is a technology. They're software. And so any argument against technology misunderstands human beings. We were technological before we were human. We had fire. We had stone tools. We co-evolved with our technologies. And language is the crucial one. And I would agree with those people who say the crucial technologies right now are political economy and finance.

KSR was interviewed by the Possible podcast, on Ministry but also Aurora, Galileo's Dream and more: KSR on the Future of Civilization (on Spotify) + a transcript on their site

One of the things that has gotten stronger for me as the last 40 years have passed is a conviction that humanity coevolved with Earth. It will never prosper off of Earth. Our trips off of Earth are trips into the death zone, which is what climbers call the elevations above about 26,000 feet, where the body starts to break down [...] this information that now is common—50% of the DNA inside your body is not human DNA. Well, this is news, and it changes everything. Because you can’t take Earth with you when you go off, even to the moon or Mars, much less off into interstellar space, where I have actually written an entire novel suggesting we’re not going to the stars because we coevolved with Earth, and we’re only healthy here. And in my solar-system novels—where you can see some from the mid-eighties and some from the last 10 years—you’ll see a shift in that in the ones in the last 10 years, people always have to go back to Earth for their sabbatical. They have to go back and eat some dirt. They have to get connected with the biosphere of Earth, which is their extended body, in order to be healthy again.

KSR talked to the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International AffairsWhy does the world now need to consider solar radiation modification? (YouTube video)

The Economist interviewed KSR and Laurence Tubiana on the the need for fiction about climate change on their podcast Babbage: Climate fiction meets climate fact (on Spotify)

The Science in The Fiction podcast does one writer and one scientst episode: KSR talked about Ministry (on Spotify) and glaciologist Heidi Sevestre talked geoengineering

Sam Matey's The Weekly Anthropocene interviewed KSR: Kim Stanley Robinson, Science Fiction Maestro and Utopian

When I look at the timeline of Ministry for the Future I'm very pleased to report that there are some sentences in it that no longer conform at all to reality as it's going. One chapter begins, “the 2030s were zombie years.” And that is now wrong! [...] it's going so much faster that I think the timeline in Ministry for the Future is completely off.  We're already in the ferment that in my novel I have happening in the 2040s.

The Everyday Anarchism podcast continued its coverage of KSR's works with the Mars trilogy and an interview with KSR: Revolution and Anarchism in The Mars Trilogy

The Futurists podcast talks with KSR on his Mars trilogy, economics, world building, science and climate: Minister for the Future (Part 1 and Part 2

Berkeley Talks podcast...talks with KSR: Sci-fi writer Kim Stanley Robinson on the need for 'angry optimism' (including a transcript)

Having put a climate disaster that kills millions in India, I felt obliged to India. I needed to stay there. I needed it to be the solution and not just an excuse for an American to put the problems on the other side of the world and then we solve them. I needed Indians involved in solving it. They are in huge danger from a wet bulb event, although one of the hottest wet bulb events ever recorded was outside of Chicago. 

So it isn't like we're not in danger, but India's in real danger. I mean more present, more immediate. And I wanted to stick with them. And the book has been well-received in India. I mean, aside from the occasional hate mail from BJP party nationalists, but by and large, the Indians have said to this book, "Oh yes, Farhanji is finally understood. We are the center of the story and we're going to solve the problem here." 

Radio Ecoshock / podcast interviewed KSR about Ministry and The High Sierra: Climate Sci-Fi Gets Too Real

KSR gave a lecture at Stony Brook University for its special series on climate change, and the whole thing is on YouTube.

And finally (for now!), Palma podcast interviewed KSR: What We Imagine, We Make Possible (on Spotify)


 

The rest 

We continue with some additional material:

The book clubs discussing Ministry for the Future continue with Trinity College Dublin and South Burlington Public Library (Vermont).

Recommendations continue with The Conversation (Five fiction books to inspire climate action), The New York Times (This Is the Way the World Ends; paywall), The National (Earth Day: 12 novels to read with an environmental protection theme), The Seattle Times (Dig into these 4 books for Earth Day), and The Washington Post (10 books that will transform how you see nature, paywall), where Nnedi Okorafor writes:

I read “The Ministry for the Future,” by Kim Stanley Robinson, as I was in the process of moving to Phoenix. The novel starts with a deadly heat wave in India. Issues of water shortages and extreme heat were very much on my mind. I knew of Phoenix’s brutal summers, but was yet to experience one. The stark step-by-step details of this catastrophic event that leaves millions dead was such a terrifying read that it nearly gave me a panic attack. I had nightmares. After reading the first part, I went on to take some very aggressive (and expensive) precautions. “The Ministry for the Future” opened my eyes wider to how the Earth is changing and alarmed me in a way that only great science fiction can.

Reviews and articles inspired by Ministry:


 

What's next? KSR's next non-fiction book on Antarctica, in the same style as The High Sierra, is due out soon-ish -- he is turning it in to his publisher in July.

It's structured like my book The High Sierra: A Love Story— the same format, in that it will have a variety of modes, including lyric realism as you called it, memoir, history, geology, and this case, glaciology. I'm enjoying this kind of modular miscellany, or just the kitchen sink principle— just throw in everything.  It helps me to do non-fiction.

And KSR will soon be heading to northern Italy, as he will be one of the residents of the Rockefeller Foundation Bellagio Center!

(Top image: from the poster of the fiction film How To Blow Up A Pipeline, inspired by Andreas Malm's non-fiction book)

 

 

6 Feb 2024

"Article 14 of the Paris Agreement Under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change called for a periodic taking stock of all the signatory nations’ carbon emissions, which meant in effect the total global carbon burn for the year in question. The first “global stocktake” was scheduled for 2023, and then every five years after that. That first global stocktake didn’t go well."

Thus begins Chapter 3 of The Ministry for the Future. But it could very well be a headline of the coverage of COP28 in December 2023, in our very real world! 2023 was the hottest year of the Anthropocene, and the heat wave kicking off Ministry makes it a timely and obvious starting point for discussing these issues.

Kim Stanley Robinson has been talking tirelessly about Ministry for the past three years now with no sign of slowing down! In November, he visited several countries in Europe.

Dutch editor VPRO produced this nice short video that can serve as a layman's introduction to KSR and to Ministry (some parts are in Dutch but they are short): "Voorbij de klimaatcrisis met Kim Stanley Robinson"

While in Rotterdam, he was interviewed by the Financial Times (with a lot of detail about the menu!): "If the world fails, business fails"

Robinson tells me he has been invited to meetings about the future with central bankers and defence department officials, as well as associations of hedge fund managers, although he can’t share their names. “They don’t want to shake the confidence of the world by telling [everyone] that they’ve been consulting with a crazy science-fiction writer . . . They thought it might shake the stock markets.”

In Switzerland, Stan gave a talk at ETH Zürich (which has been featured in a few of his works): see a report with photos from that event.

Also in Switzerland, he gave a talk at the World Trade Organization, together with WTO Director-General Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala: "Harnessing the Power of the International Trade System to Respond to the Climate Crisis" (panel on YouTube)

In Germany, the German translation of Ministry was awarded the Carlowitz Sustainability Award (named after the "father" of sustainable forestry), see also publisher Heyne press release.

Several of Stan's interviews in French media are very interesting -- going beyond just talking about the issues around Ministry but more in general about his influences, his view on literature and science fiction, looking back on his career... Material in English is noted below.

Interview at Blast (alternative media): "Un ministère du futur face à l'urgence climatique" (in English):

Interview at the podcast C'est plus que de la SF ("it's more than science fiction"): "Le Ministère du Futur par Kim Stanley Robinson" (in English)

Interviews for purely French speakers:

And, last but not least, Stan's panel at the Utopiales science fiction conference in Nantes, France (that he had also visited in 2006) (in English):

I will catch up with more Ministry-related and High Sierra-related interviews in the next update.

Meanwhile, here are some reviews for Ministry:

And some sightings of Ministry in book lists and other recommendations:

In addition, Ministry found its way in this interesting art-meets-science project: A Future Manual For Future Models: An Artist’s Guide on How to do Integrated Assessment Modelling Differently

And it inspired a short story challenge at the Spectator.

Then, Ministry book clubs! Here's one in Martha's Vineyard and I'm sure there are others out there. With this book club by Wonkette, there were several articles discussing aspects of it:

  1. A (Climate) Change Is Gonna Come
  2. Hope To Do Some Good, No Matter How F*cked Up You Are
  3. Hot And Cold Running Crises
  4. Climate Dreams And Flying Machines
  5. The Everything Feeling And An Earthquake In The Head
  6. A Future Up In The Air

Finally, as the world continues to wake up to the reality of climate change and mobilize resources to counter it, lots and lots of articles make reference to Ministry in more or less detail. Here is a selection, the list is long and I'm sure there are more out there!

Long story short, Ministry is still being widely discussed. With this infodump out of the way, be on the lookout for a future update with more varied material!

(Illustration: Miguel Bucana for Socialter Magazine)

20 Oct 2023

Catching up with Robinson

Submitted by Kimon

It's been a while, but I'm back with the usual list of links about everything KSR! On the program: MORE discussion of Ministry for the Future and some love for The High Sierra.

 

KSR wrote an essay on Noema: Paying Ourselves To Decarbonize

The people fighting to burn fossil fuels in this coming decade may be thinking they are doing their best to save their fellow citizens from ruin.

The petro-states will have to be compensated, or they will become desperate and turn into such a force of disruption that efforts to avoid a mass extinction event will fail.

We need to employ a kind of eco-realpolitik that refrains from too much righteous judgment, acknowledging that all nation-states are obliged to keep their citizens free from disruption, unemployment and starvation.

 

Some KSR quotes in this Grist article: The summer that reality caught up to climate fiction

 

KSR on Bloomberg CityLab Environment: Author Kim Stanley Robinson Has a Utopian Climate Solution: Cities

California’s housing crisis right now is terrible. Suburbia is the culprit, cities are the solution.

You need a space you can call your own. It needs to be functional. It doesn’t need to be a mini-mansion, as with the idea that a suburban house on a quarter-acre is like an English castle and you are a lord. It’s not just the carbon footprint. It’s the isolation of it into the nuclear family, the lack of collegiality and sociability.

 

See also Bloomberg Green Climate Politics: How a Utopian Sci-Fi Author Writes Toward a Low-Carbon Future and Bloomberg Zero: A Sci-Fi Writer’s Guide to a Low-Carbon Future (podcast)

 

KSR interview on Republik.ch: «Ich wollte schon immer erzählen, wie wir trotz Klimakrise eine bessere Welt erschaffen können» [in German; quote translated back into English, about Silicon Valley tech boys:]

We would all like a simple solution to complex problems. But the world is not easy. I have met several of these people. These Silicon Valley types often come from engineering backgrounds and are poorly educated in history, political theory and economics. Almost all men. That alone is suspicious. The combination of patriarchal masculinity, wealth and arrogance makes such people believe that they can solve all the world's problems themselves. But what's actually more interesting than these guys is their idea that everything is technology. But that is only true and correct if you also view culture or laws as technology. Language, for example, is nothing more than software. Ultimately, these are the really powerful technologies.

 


Some video interviews:

A discussion for Grist's Looking Forward Book Club‘At least zombies aren’t eating my face’ (vimeo)

At a certain point, dystopia has run its course of what it can do usefully. So then you need the positive stories. I’ve been writing utopias since about 1987, so that’s adding up to a lot of years of just trying to do the positive because I think we need it more. And it’s harder, technically — it’s less dramatic. But it’s interesting because you get new stories that haven’t been told before.

 

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating: on The High Sierra: A Love Story (YouTube) -- also as a podcast

UC San Diego TV: A Conversation with Author Kim Stanley Robinson

About the Authors TV S04:E18 - Kim Stanley Robinson (also on Locus Mag and YouTube twice)

Green Change: Hope Meetup (Facebook video)

Planet: Critical: How Things Could Go Right (YouTube) -- also available as a podcast

A discussion for the SciFri Book Club: The Ministry for the Future: A Global (and Fictional) Response to Climate Change (book club announcement - Q&A livestreamYouTube link) + an excerpt from Ministry (Chapter 3)

A classy video made for KSR's visit in Denmark for Bloom 2022Science Fiction is the Realism of Our Time (YouTube/vimeo)

 


On to podcast interviews with KSR, of which there are many:

 


Some news about The High Sierra: A Love Story:

 


How about some academic works about the novels of KSR?

 


There's still a lot of discussion going on about The Ministry for the Future:

The Only Sky Humanist Book Club did a series of articles discussing Ministry for the Future:

Some more Ministry reviews:

Articles inspired by or mentioning Ministry:

 


And finally, some odds and ends:

Be sure to check out the events calendar -- some European and US dates will appear!

Until next time --

(Top photo: by Carsten Snejbjerg, from Republik's article)

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